565: The Hurdy-Gurdy, OKLCH, Edge Dev Tools, and Ad Blocking
Dave doesn't hate the hurdy-gurdy, but it's creation is an interesting parallel to software development. OKLCH follow up, @media, Edge drops new dev tools, CSS and Astro theming, JavaScript devs discover PHP, how many people block ads, and accessibility and grids.
Guests

Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert
This episode is with just Chris & Dave, ShopTalk Show's hosts. Chris is the co-founder of CodePen and creator of CSS-Tricks, and Dave is lead developer at Paravel.
Time Jump Links
- 00:01 Bug hunting in color town
- 03:58 From relative color syntax
- 09:45 OKLCH
- 12:50 DaveRupert.com goes OKLCH
- 16:15 @Media
- 17:09 Edge drops new dev tools features
- 21:14 How CSS can benefit people
- 23:36 Sponsor: Frontend Masters
- 25:32 Page transistions API
- 35:08 Nuxt Studio beta
- 37:21 Astro themes
- 39:46 JavaScript discovers PHP
- 40:44 How many people actually block ads?
- 44:26 The Hurdy-Gurdy software engineer
- 49:12 Subgrid and accessibility
Links
- The Homepage of Dave Rupert | daverupert.com
- Get to Know Microsoft Edge
- Boosts - Arc Boosts
- Home - GAAD
- grid - CSS: Cascading Style Sheets | MDN
- The Frontend Studio for Nuxt Developers and Teams · Nuxt Studio
- Appcues | Product adoption made easy
- The Hurdy-Gurdy software engineer | daverupert.com
- 5 Linkin Park riffs on hurdy gurdy
- Podcast Episode 1: An Apology Regarding Aboard - Aboard
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