070: With Hampton Catlin

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This week we were joined by Hampton Catlin. Hampton is the inventor of Sass and Haml, the original creator of Wikipedia Mobile, and several successful iPhone applications including Dictionary! Hampton is currently building crazy new technologies to mobilize the web at Moovweb. We talked about (roughly in order):


Q & A

  • 29:00 Do we live in a world wherein both “LESS” and “Sass” will continue to coexist?
  • 35:55 I recently got a copy of LiveReload for the Sass/Less capabilities. I noticed that it compiles other things as well such as Haml. I had never heard of Haml or Jade. What are your thoughts on these? Do you think they will gain in popularity or are they on their way down? Have you used them? How do you keep up with all the new frameworks and libraries and know which ones to use and which ones won’t last?
  • 42:36 What do you think is the best approach for coding/designing responsive modals or lightboxes?
  • 51:45 “I came across this tool yesterday that allows users to query a huge amount of client data server side.”


  • 41:51 Squarespace – Super nice looking websites (new templates!) that you can create right from the browser. Plus, very advanced developer tools. Head over to Squarespace and start your free trial, and use coupon code “shoptalk4” when you order.
  • 50:25 Environments for Humans – The CSS Summit is an online conference focused totally on CSS July 23–25. Three full days of training, advanced topics, and preprocessors. Coupon code SHOPTALK is good for 20% off.

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  • Christian

    Great show guys, as usual! I’m glad we LESS people can coexist with SASS people well into the future. Since I’m primarily design, I don’t use Ruby or the command line very much, so it was nice to still be able to use a preprocessor. Other technologies that have two versions usually have a rivalry and one of them dies. Let’s hope it’s not the same case here.

  • Carlito

    Gif or Jif? Giraffe is Jiraffe. I find it fascinating the subject matter some of us devote to fighting for, especially when it comes to pronunciation in the English language. One thing I’ve learned is that English, unlike Spanish, is anything but consistent. In Spanish, whenever “g” comes before “i” or “e”, it is pronounced like “h” in “hot”. Everything else is a hard “g”. There’s no arguing about it. In English, one cannot be sure.

    Now let’s spend some time arguing about less trivial things, like solving world hunger … or at least our user’s problems.

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