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738: The Trouble with Tests and Bugs, Interop Voting, and AI Skills

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Dave’s got a great concert story to kick off the episode before talking AI-assisted tests, a practical use for HTML markers and templates, Interop voting, browser features like margin-trim, and how to stream content into a page without first building a recursive tree.

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Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert in silly sunglasses and a sign that says Shawp Tawlkk Shough DOT COM

Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert

This episode is with just Chris & Dave, ShopTalk Show's hosts. Chris is the co-founder of CodePen, and Dave writes web components at Microsoft.

Time Jump Links

  • 00:00:20 You need a good sick
  • 00:02:22 Can you play the ancient riff?
  • 00:10:00 Selling old gear to people who want it
  • 00:12:21 Learning about who you're voting for
  • 00:14:20 Go play Tupo
  • 00:16:08 Go play How Many Dudes
  • 00:19:04 Sponsor: AI And Design Systems
  • 00:21:35 The trouble with tests and fixing bugs with AI
  • 00:37:20 Invoking skills on purpose vs the LLM using them when it thinks it needs them
  • 00:43:02 Interop ranking and voting
  • 00:48:15 Recursion is DEAD and HTML killed it
  • 01:08:23 Webm is worth a second look

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