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672: Design Tokens, Web Compents, and Web Monetization

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We're all addicted to Clues by Sam and wonder about the data structure for the site, good thoughts on the design tokens community, shadow DOM, the state of web components in mid-2025, dealing with JSON, and new ideas around web monetization.

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Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert in silly sunglasses and a sign that says Shawp Tawlkk Shough DOT COM

Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert

This episode is with just Chris & Dave, ShopTalk Show's hosts. Chris is the co-founder of CodePen, and Dave writes web components at Microsoft.

Time Jump Links

  • 00:52 Clues by Sam is popping off
  • 03:46 Wondering about the data modeling and structure for Clues by Sam
  • 06:37 Sponsor: Design Tokens Course
  • 08:39 Design Tokens community
  • 14:45 Interop 2025 Dashboard
  • 15:56 Did Chris diss the Shadow DOM?
  • 20:41 Our thoughts on web components in mid-2025
  • 28:21 Job title: JSON Munger
  • 29:14 Web monetization
  • 46:41 Money follows money

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