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274 Vanilla JS with Chris Ferdinandi

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Chris Ferdinandi

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We're talking with Chris Ferdinandi about Javascript, specifically Vanilla Javascript, and what that means on the web in 2017.

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  • M Chapman

    Great show guys. Really good to hear about the different approaches and the different pitfalls that can easily bog people/teams down. I used mainly jQuery but would definitely use more ‘vanilla’ javascript in my sites if I felt more comfortable with it. I can see the benefit of it and yes there is the tried and tested arguments. It’s not a one answer for everything. Cheers.

  • thebigkick

    Great show as always. Zurb has a message for Chris…get dem arrow functions

    http://foundation.zurb.com/building-blocks/blocks/neat-article-container.html

    • Thad Humphries

      Arrows are cool. A great addition to the language.

  • Thad Humphries

    Love, love, LOVED this show. I was burned by JS pre-2000, and too long avoided it by hiding behind JSPs and GWT. Now I’m catching up, and get sooo tired of seeing JQuery examples. I want to know how JS REALLY WORKS, not how someone else wrapped it (although I’ll also admit to being big fan of https://www.webcomponents.org/).

  • Really interesting podcast and I reckon starting ‘vanilla’ is a the way to learn JavaScript. I’m right there at this very moment trying to learn it from the ground up after years of tweaking and adapting jQuery code and plugins.

    I’ve heard Chris (Coyier) mention a few times, in one way or another, that he feels the world has moved or is moving on from jQuery. But is this really the case? I am one of those guys that views the source on each new/hot/trendy/sexy/whatever website and I’d say the majority are using jQuery for whatever reason. I don’t buy the idea that the web community is slowly moving away from it. From what I’m seeing jQuery is alive and well. That said I do buy the argument that re-writing a site that heavily depends on jQuery could be torture which could explain why a lot of sites still use it.

    I appreciate Chris and Dave are big voices in the front-end dev community and influence a lot of people, but to just say that this is the case feels a little remiss. Chris probably has a whole stack of data from Codepen to counter that argument. But isn’t Codepen mainly a platform for users to experiment and test out ideas and concepts? Therefore newer tech such as React is going to be favoured over other tech like jQuery because people want to try it out and see what the fuss is about.

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