075: With Tim Kadlec

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This week we were joined by Tim Kadlec. Tim is a front end developer, blogger, book author, and started the web conference Breaking Development at his previous job. We talk about (roughly in order):

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Q & A

  • 30:52 1. Tim, you’re a husband and father of three, you write books, run and speak at conferences and still have great looking hair. What’s the secret?
  • Do you generally favour responsive image techniques that require author ‘intervention’ (e.g. writing or srcset style markup) or set and forget methods such as adaptive-images.com (and why)?
  • 41:30 Have you seen any examples of pages using mostly CSS animation to tell a story? Also, for Tim, how do animated infographics fit into a responsive workflow?
  • 48:35 Isn’t display: table-cell awesome? Why don’t CSS developers use it more often?
  • 56:24 How do you find the people that you want to interview? The reason I ask is because on your site — and most other design sites I’ve found — never talk about or feature any black designers or developer.

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  • This is consistently a great podcast! I’m grateful to you two (and your guests) from week to week for sharing insights, constructive tips, and humor. And for not shying away from some of the very tough *social* issues within this industry like the lack of gender and racial balance.

    I found this week’s episode to be particularly awesome – especially towards the end with the last Q&A that dealt with race inside the web development world. I enjoyed listening to that not necessarily because you offered any final, holier-than-thou solutions for the problem, but because you responded to the question in honest, unsure, and truly human(e) ways.

    As a black man and front-end designer/developer, 10 times out of 10 I find myself in professional spaces that don’t have any other black men – and usually no other black people. It’s wack, but whenever those around me take the initiative to recognize that it needs to change and recognize their role in helping to bring that change, it’s inspiring and makes me feel like there is a fulfilling future out there for me and others who need to feel community in their lives.

    Props. (Do people still say that?)

  • Nice to hear.

  • goodbedford

    Hey guys, I love the show. It is the best thing since yayQuery. I listen to your shows at least 4 hours a week. Just to let you know I am a black male and front-end developer. I just finished my web-dev certificate at the San Francisco City College in May and your show keeps my mind in the right place. I haven’t done much yet but I am making progress.

    I am glad you addressed the diversity issue properly. Listen, I enjoy all your guest and you do a great job(cue the sound board) “Oh laptop” . I wouldn’t beat yourself up about this. You have had plenty of women and male guest who are influential in the biz. Plus, your guest are from all around the U.S. from coast to coast and international. You always find a way to address many of the hot drama topics whether it’s women, sexism, disabilities, and race. You two are on top of your game if you ask me. Insightful, respectful, fun and one good time. Your to the web as Redman and Method Man is to Hip Hop. Dave your Method Man and Chris your Redman

    I mean sure I would like to find out about some bad ass black dude developer, that would be cool. I search around and I don’t know many but if I keep at it in two years maybe I can be one. As far as the conversation goes you got great street cred with me. I think the 3 of you being man enough to talk about it on air non scripted is honest and refreshing. Doing that will spark some good. But sleep easy tonight.

    Shoptalk show for life and if you ever need free labor or unpaid intern I am at your service.
    goodbedford

    • chriscoyier

      I’m happy with Redman.

      > if I keep at it in two years maybe I can be one

      Eff yes you can.

  • Humbled that my article on Medium made it into your conversation guys. You’re all right, it is a silly blanket statement. Prompted by endless junky sidebars, the real point was to get people to _think_ about what they’re doing in the sidebar. Obviously if your business relies on advertising, all the better to ensure the sidebar content is clear and useful when present.

    I hope that helps clarify. Also, the agreeably ‘dickish-finish’ was just so much fun, I couldn’t resist.

    • chriscoyier

      lol thanks. Sorry our (my) words probably got a little too strong there, but I also couldn’t resist =)

      • Totally understand, people are very passionate about sidebars.

  • forresttanaka

    One use case for table-cell that you can’t do with a real table is a responsive design case. On a phone, menu items could be display block. Once you reach tablet size, a media query changes them to table-cell. Then you can space the items horizontally evenly even if you don’t know how many menus there are.

  • Mark Phoenix

    Hi guys. I’m with goodbedford & Qa,id on this.

    As a bad ass black dude developer in training, your show has been a major help in giving me the confidence to make a career switch as I approach my 40’s. I’m sure I’m not alone in that.

    Besides, no race ,nationality or skin colour (yeah I’m spelling it with a u, get lost non British spell check!!) is a homogeneous mass. I grew up in a sleepy village in the English countryside, so my experience will be pretty far removed from many others who would look like me. Your generosity, skills and especially the sound effects are all the inspiration I need… and if you would be so kind as to answer the question I’ve just sent in I might even go buy a t-shirt.

  • Derry Spann

    @ the viewer question 57min into podcast, not be insensitive to your question, but that question is relative to the afro centric culture. Im really HOPING that any web dev conference or DOESN’T PLAY THE RACE QUOTA.

    If your in the afro centric community just do your best in continuing your pursuit to make the web better! and dont forget to “Just build Websites!!”

    hope i wasn’t insensitive.

    • Hi Derry – thanks for adding to the convo; it’s one of the ways I think we can each contribute.

      No one chose me as the decider on what’s right or wrong, so I won’t pretend to be that person. I’m not sure whether your thoughts are insensitive since that’s gonna be subjective to each person, but I do think the terms you’re using (“afro centric” and “race quotas”) are incorrect and out of context.

      A discussion about the composition and inclusion of all of our industry participants is relative to everyone in our industry, not just one group.

      We can (and should) easily expand this conversation to look at the way women, gay people, the “disabled,” trans-gendered, economically disadvantaged, and all non-majority people experience this work and this world. It can only help to make the websites we build even more impactful. More on quantitative and qualitative benefits of diversity within workplace systems: https://www.google.com/search?q=benefit+of+diverse+workforce.